on the doe pes tick side when you look at tax reduction, tax increase, tax reform, immigration, he comes off looking like a moderate. >> chip, let me ask you in closing, i just want to clarify one thing here. >> sure. >> you have said a couple of times that hezbollah was created out of the void left when reagan took our troops out of lebanon. is there a suggestion by any of the scholars that you -- that you talked to that reagan should have stayed in lebanon longer? was that the flaw that many people said caused problems in the middle east that after the attack, after the killings, that reagan did decide to bring the troops loam? >> depending on how deeply you want to go into the middle east policy, i would say, if you talk to rez za as you land and some other scholars, there are a number of things going on relative to iran, but certainly as it relates to george schulze and rondy rice in the film, they all say yes, that the pullout created a power vacuum that led to at least to the strength of hezbollah from that point forward. so they would all say they regret that decision. >> to what